Originally Posted By: crutchtip
Originally Posted By: BoBlade

Joe,

Horizontally stamped Randall logo sheaths phased out well before the baby dot came into use! Also, take a close look at the size of the "baby dot" snaps on that 1-6 sheath. Without a doubt they are larger than the baby dot snaps that Johnson used. IMO this unique snap set up was either done by Heiser or the Shop when the supply of other snaps was exhausted. Bo wouldn't delay getting paid for a knife even a few days if he could also deliver a "functional" sheath.


I don't see any discernible difference in size of this snap by photograph and without the sheath in hand it can't be determined definitively. That being said, it is probably the same snap.

Nevertheless, Gaddis clearly states that the Heiser-Keyston-Lichtenberger company did not have the ability to use the "Baby Dot" style of snap. In any case, with the last order from HKL arriving in 1962, they most likely would not have had the impetus to even try the snap.

Interesting is the photo of the 3-6 you posted appears to have originally had a larger snap on the stone pouch that was removed, unless that is from pressing that snap on, but you don't see the same indentation on the keeper.

I agree with Ron Cap, it definitely appears to be of HKL manufacture. There really is not a "mystery" maker as some have promoted on occasion. Yes there were a few samples made here and there, but nothing in any quantity.


Joe,

We differ here: I do see a discernable difference in the size of these snaps! The width of either a Heiser or Johnson retainer strap varies a bit, but not by much. Look at the largest image of the keeper you posted: The diameter of the keeper snap aligns with the edge of the keeper strap on one side and actually overhangs the other side! I'm not letting you get away with saying "That said, it's probably the same snap"! grin

Yes, Heiser didn't have the ability to fasten the (smaller) baby dot snaps, but they sure did have the ability to fasten larger snaps! Just look at the ones they substituted for BB's around 1950.

Tune: No offense taken for sure.

Best to both of you guys.
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Ron Mathews
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