Originally Posted By: BoBlade

Joe,

We differ here: I do see a discernable difference in the size of these snaps! The width of either a Heiser or Johnson retainer strap varies a bit, but not by much. Look at the largest image of the keeper you posted: The diameter of the keeper snap aligns with the edge of the keeper strap on one side and actually overhangs the other side! I'm not letting you get away with saying "That said, it's probably the same snap"! grin

Yes, Heiser didn't have the ability to fasten the (smaller) baby dot snaps, but they sure did have the ability to fasten larger snaps! Just look at the ones they substituted for BB's around 1950.

Tune: No offense taken for sure.

Best to both of you guys.


Ron -

the snap on the keeper appears to be offset a bit that lends itself to appearing larger but not by much if it is at all.

You are completely discounting Gaddis and to say that HKL (not Heiser as we know it) had a press for the "larger" Baby Dot that was not even a thought PRIOR to Johnson's suggestion to Bo, Gary, and Bill to make the change, is more than a big reach.

By your logic, HKL "suggested" or "experimented" with the change well before Johnson made the change. So using that same logic, why is there a 3-4 year period where HKL continued to use the inferior brown button when the Baby Dot was available to them but the change only came about because of Johnson?

The snaps you mention from 1950 are a totally different animal. Not apples to apples.
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