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#80272 - 09/05/10 11:11 AM "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless"
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Hearing about Bob Loveless' passing got me to thinking. Bob was most certainly a custom knifemaking pioneer. I believe his most famous offering was still (and always will be) his drop point hunter. Bob made many styles but the drop point seems to stand out (and stick out in my memory) as his "trademark" or "signature" model.
A Loveless drop point was offered many ways. Many were full tang (exposed tang) construction and offered with just about any handle material you wished for. I have seen some hidden tang models as well.
I am curious if anyone would be interested in building a Randall knife (drop point, of course) as we are all thinking about this great knifemaker at this time. Let me hear from ya'. The choices would come from the following group of Randall knives:

A) Model #11, "Alaskan Skinner" (from 3 1/4"-5" blade length)

B) Model #25, "Trapper" (from 5-6" blade length)

C) Model #26, "Pathfinder" (4" blade length only)

D) Model #28, "Woodsman" (4 1/2" blade length only)

A #28 certainly would not allow for much creativity as it is not offered with many "options". It certainly is a dandy model...just not much for us to "build on". We could include other models. A "Combat Companion" has a drop point shape to the blade. A large and small "Gambler" as well. What do you folks think?
Best, Capt. Chris


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#80276 - 09/05/10 12:32 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Great idea Cap!!!!
And a tough choice ... but I'd like to see a
5" Model 25 Trapper.
My second choice would be a
4 1/2" Model 11 Alaskan Skinner.
Thanks,
Tony
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#80287 - 09/05/10 08:28 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I'll vote for a #25-5".
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#80288 - 09/05/10 08:58 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: ChadHelpling]
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How about a #25-6"?
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#80292 - 09/05/10 10:21 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: kimon]
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My vote is for the #11-4 1/2. I love that model..

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#80301 - 09/06/10 01:57 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: burtont]
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Hey Captain,

What a great idea. I second Tony's picks, but I think a model 11 4 1/2 inch would make a better Italian hard sausage cutter.

Cheers,

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#80304 - 09/06/10 06:20 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Are we interested in building a drop point, you bet !!

How about a 6 inch model 25

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#80307 - 09/06/10 09:33 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Hey Alan,
You know how to sway me! laugh
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#80311 - 09/06/10 09:45 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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I vote for a #25-6" as well. One way to make it special would be to use fine silver furniture with black and sterling silver spacers (the sterling silver spacers are subtly, but noticeably thicker than the standard aluminum ones). One of mine is configured like this:



One advantage of the #25 is that you are unlikely to reach the limit of five chargeable options. Metal spacers are standard. Thumb notches are also standard. Hand-picked Stag would be a must.
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#80326 - 09/06/10 12:34 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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Ken,
I'm gettin' the dreaded "Red X" ??? Also: Metal spacers are standard but silver is definately a chargeable option...(Just didn't want folks confused)...Now where's that pic??
Best, Capt. Chris
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#80327 - 09/06/10 12:35 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Miracle!! It's now there!! Nice!!!
Best, Capt. Chris
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#80329 - 09/06/10 12:47 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Chris, you wrote:
Quote:
Metal spacers are standard but silver is definitely a chargeable option...(Just didn't want folks confused)...
Yes, you are correct. In fact, specifying silver furniture -- meaning a fine silver hilt, sterling silver spacers, and a fine silver butt cap -- constitutes three chargeable options. But, given that the #25 is a rather fully-featured knife with its handle configuration, the other two chargeable options can be used for a stainless steel blade, wrist thong, or CW handle material for the #25 handle insert (though the Stag insert looks awesome).
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#80346 - 09/06/10 09:25 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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I'll vote for the #25, either blade length.
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#80347 - 09/06/10 09:40 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Rick Magee]
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Expanding on my vote for a #25-6", I'm adding everything Ken said smile
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#80348 - 09/06/10 09:48 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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My vote would be for a 25-6 too. Because I don't have one and have always wanted one. I like the configuration of the one Ken posted. We could always substitute white micarta, red micarta, black micarta or a nice piece of wood for the center.

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#80349 - 09/06/10 09:56 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: New2Randalls]
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#80350 - 09/06/10 09:57 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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In the past, when metal spacers are standard, as in the model #25, sterling silver spacers have not been a chargeable option. Fine silver hilts, collars or buttcaps have been treated in the same way as nickel silver as far as chargeable options are concerned.

Although the shop generally does not inatall nickel silver lugged hilts, they will install fine silver lugged hilts on any model on which brass lugged hilts are an option.

Regards,
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#80355 - 09/06/10 11:06 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: silverknife]
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Thanks Doug,
Good talkin' to you this evening. I'll double-check this with the Randall shop tomorrow as I was of the same thinking on this as you were....to be continued...
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: I'll also get the pricing update...CCS
PPS: There are a lot of options still on the table. All I did was ask a question if ya'll were interested in doing this? Below: "Pathfinder" with some of my cocobola...CCS


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#80380 - 09/07/10 05:09 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: silverknife]
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Checked with the shop this AM. Sterling Silver spacers are not a chargeable option on the #25 since metal spacers are standard.

Upcharge for nickel silver or fine silver hilt is $15.00 Upcharge for nickel silver or fine silver buttcap is $60.00

Bottom line: fine silver hardware or nickel silver hardware for the #25 will be 2 chargeable options at $75.00 plus the cost of the silver parts if fine silver is chosen.

Regards,
Doug
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#80382 - 09/07/10 05:32 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: silverknife]
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Thank you, Doug, for clarifying that specifying Sterling Silver spacers on a #25 (or a knife with a #25 handle) is a non-chargeable option, except for the cost of sourcing the sterling silver.

Interesting, though, if you read the current catalog's description of the #25, it states that Nickel Silver is the standard hilt material, along with a Duralumin butt cap, but that Brass is available upon request, presumably referring to both the the hilt and butt cap. This would then suggest that there would be no charge for specifying Fine Silver for the hilt, other than the cost of sourcing the silver from you, but that a Fine Silver butt cap would be the only chargeable option, at $60.

This stuff is complicated.
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#80383 - 09/07/10 06:07 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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25-6" here
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#80385 - 09/07/10 06:19 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: thevalueman]
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#25-6" sounds great.
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#80386 - 09/07/10 07:06 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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Ken...and others:
I agree that this stuff is complicated. Valerie even double-checked with GTR today, after Doug's call. Not everything is listed, catalogged or inclusive in this "Science of Randalls". So long as we get it right in the end...That's all that counts.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Silver spacers "are" chargeable on the majority of Randall models and handles...CCS
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#80401 - 09/08/10 12:06 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I think we effectively rat-holed this into a discussion about the how specifying silver furniture relates to chargeable options for the #25. The conclusion should probably be recorded in the 'Randall "ordering" questions' thread.

The consensus seems to be gravitating toward the #25-6", though there is still the question of what material to use for the hilt, butt cap, and spacers. I suggested silver, but nickel silver and brass should also be considered.

I own three #25-6" knives, with all three hilt and butt cap combinations (brass, nickel silver, and silver):

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#80405 - 09/08/10 08:06 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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If we can't decide, we could make one of each smile

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#80408 - 09/08/10 09:41 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Captain,

A) Model #11, "Alaskan Skinner" 4 1/2" blade length-First Choice

B) Model #25, "Trapper" 6" blade length-Second Choice

Silver hardware is a great idea and Stag on either is one great knife.

Regards,

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#80411 - 09/08/10 12:28 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: GCTom41]
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26/4
brass single hilt
all red spacers
bph-green micarta, no thong hole (or argentine LV 'cause its green)

optional; Thin and rounded brass butt (but that will likely throw off the balance in a very un-Loveless way)

this may sound boring to some but its in keeping with his standards, (except for the bb.)
besides, I'm not sure BL made any dp's with blades longer than 4 inches, reasoning they would be too heavy and cumbersome for extended use.

with a 25/6 the drop point is the only similarity, not enough for a loveless inspired RMK, imo
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#80412 - 09/08/10 12:42 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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I agree.
The 6" blade does not feel/look like a typical Drop Point.
The blade seems too "elongated."
My opinion.
Tony
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#80417 - 09/08/10 05:14 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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Gamble:
I have been thinking the same thing, although I know Bob Loveless made some 4 1/2" drop points. I agree that the 6", heavy blade, would not be in keeping with the "Loveless" sized knives...but these builds are by majority vote and wants. We're a ways away from a role call. That's why it is good to hear everybody's input. I always encourage it. Thanks for yours...
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Here's rather nice #26, "Pathfinder" in Lignum Vitae...CCS


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#80418 - 09/08/10 05:22 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I wasn't aware of the smaller nature of Loveless knives. I'd then vote for a #26 with #25 Handle. That should constitute one chargeable option, leaving four for stainless steel, hilt, and butt cap options.
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#80419 - 09/08/10 05:36 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: lunde]
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!!!!WARNING!!!!
!THREAD HIJACKING EMINENT!

Has anyone ever seen a 25-6 set up as a fighter? As in:

Brass double guard, green or black micarta center piece, brass or aluminum butt cap.
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#80424 - 09/08/10 07:49 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: tomthbomb]
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Tom,
A double hilt is unavailable on a Model #25. I've seen it on a #11-5" before and..."in my opionion"...it should be unavailable on that model as well...Butt ugly!! Whew!! "BUT" (There's that word again)...That's just my opinion. I have seen quite a few #25's and #26's with various micarta centers. Now that I like!!
Best, Capt. Chris


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#80426 - 09/08/10 07:59 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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Originally Posted By: Gamble
with a 25/6 the drop point is the only similarity, not enough for a loveless inspired RMK, imo


This has been bothering me too. I voted for the #25 only because it's a good-looking drop point. But now I'm thinking that we should put more thought into a knife that's meant to honor such a great knife man.

If a Loveless inspired Randall means one that looks like it was designed by Loveless, i.e. in his style, then it should be something like Gamble described: #26 with micarta - and maybe even a slab-sided handle to make it look more like a Loveless full tang handle. But even if the slab handle was available as an option, and I don't think it is, the knife still might not work, aesthetically speaking. So maybe a Loveless inspired Randall isn't really possible.

Perhaps we are approaching this project from the wrong direction. After all, it was Randall that inspired Loveless, not the other way around. So maybe we should be thinking in terms of a Loveless tribute knife instead of a Loveless-style knife.

From the "A Legend Passes" thread:
Originally Posted By: Rick_Bowles
In December 1953, a young man visiting Abercrombie & Fitch in New York City saw his first Randall Made knife and was immediately smitten. There was a nine month wait for the knife he wanted and the cost was an impediment for a young man of 24. He decided to make his own.


Do we know which Randall model Loveless wanted? Perhaps we could use that model as the basis for a tribute knife. If it was a drop point then it must have been a #11.

Friends, I'm just floating some ideas here. If we decide on using a #25 then I'm still on board. No matter which model we choose, I think building a Randall in honor of Bob Loveless is a great idea and the right thing to do.

Rick
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#80429 - 09/08/10 08:27 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Rick Magee]
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The closest to the Loveless blade (from Randall) would have been a Griffin "Drop Point Hunter". That is, the closest to what Bob was known for. Who knows what he saw and fell in love with at A&F? Who knows what he first made. I am fairly sure of the model that made him famous...and Wayne Clay...and Ron Gaston, etc., etc.
Point is: No, this knife will not be exactly like Bob Loveless' world-famous design. It will be a nice drop point and will be a utilitarian user. Whichever or whatever we decide on: I think it will be great!!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: I think this is probably the best and most open exchange of ideas we have had on and for a build here on the RKS forum in quite a long time...lovin' it...CCS
PPS: We can probably do a "slab-side", but not on a #25 styled handle...


Edited by Captain Chris Stanaback (09/08/10 08:27 PM)
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#80437 - 09/08/10 10:24 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I am still liking the #11 4 1/2 inch with Lunde's sterling silver idea and with the Captain's slab side (stag) idea. Now that would shape up to be a great set-up.

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#80448 - 09/09/10 08:43 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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OOOOH ... SLAB SIDES!
My mouth is starting to water. grin
The Sterling Silver idea could be REAL nice!
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#80451 - 09/09/10 09:18 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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nice thread!

here is my revised vote:

26
shortened fine silver hilt (square-top, but only if we can also do slab sides)
all red spacers
green micarta or LV
slab side BPH
fine/sterling silver name plate (i know, not possible)
no thong thole

special forging: NO CHOIL!

I realize that last one is probably not possible either, but RMK would have no trouble selling out of a numbered run of 100 of "Loveless Commemorative Drop Points" like I've described...

BL's passing might just be important enough in the knife world to justify that kind of special project. I know that he was not the most like-able person, though I'm not sure if he had any relationship good or bad with the Randall family in the laters years which may influence the decision one way or other. I'm just thinking it would make a really nice knife.
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#80453 - 09/09/10 10:15 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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Bob, like many of us, could probably have been classified as a grumpy old man...Still...Helluva' knife maker!
Best, Capt. Chris
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#80455 - 09/09/10 10:37 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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I agree Gamble. Nice thread indeed!
And NOW, ya got me thinking!!!
If we could do a "reduced" hilt ... that #26 you describe would be very unique
and "Loveless-esque."
You could have swayed be over to the #26!!
Tony
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#80458 - 09/09/10 11:25 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Capt.
this's what I found to show similar blades to help your nice Hunter Drop Point building.
Off course old Randall Drop Point Hunter is the nearest to Bob's drop point must:
Just my 2c
Best
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#80464 - 09/09/10 12:30 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Guido,
Good to see you made back to Italy...and good talkin' to ya'. As we have both stated the old "Randall Drop point Hunter" is the closest to Bob's famous design. Actually: These "designs" have been around for a hundred years, but certainly his "Trademark" blade design. If you look closely at today's offerings from the Randall shop it becomes evident that the #26'4" is the closest in blade grind and overall shape.
By the way, Guido...a little somethin' is posting for you today!! Good to see you back on the forums. It's been too long. Thanks.
Best, Capt. Chris


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#80469 - 09/09/10 12:50 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I do agree with you Capt.
Yes too long...finally I forced myself to learn about new Forum restyling...
All the Best to All.
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#81230 - 09/20/10 05:20 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Well...We'd dropped to "Page #3". Does that mean no one wishes to build a "Drop Point"? I just returned from a 2-day marathon trek to Savannah and Hilton Head. Did a little Randall knife business and spent too much money! How 'bout it? What think you?
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#81241 - 09/20/10 08:15 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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My vote would be for a model 26 with the 25 handle, but I think I could probably be swayed to go with the model 25 crowd grin

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#81247 - 09/20/10 08:55 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: New2Randalls]
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Lets get this cool build movin'!
I'm liking the #26 with slab sides! grin
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#81248 - 09/20/10 09:00 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Originally Posted By: TonyLaPetri
Lets get this cool build movin'!
I'm liking the #26 with slab sides! grin
Tony


Me too!
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#81466 - 09/26/10 04:29 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Hey Tony,

Me too! Slab side stag would be great, as I don't have a slab side stag Randall yet.

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#81491 - 09/27/10 12:24 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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# 26 Stag slab-side, please.
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#81500 - 09/28/10 12:13 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
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26 with slabs, too cool.

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#81535 - 09/28/10 11:11 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: pappy19]
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Slab side stag with Nickel Silver hardware. That'd be a beauty for sure.

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#81542 - 09/29/10 06:29 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Capt.

Slab side stag looks great; however, many Loveless knives have riveted side slabs. Are rivets a possible addition. If you can do rivets are they available in a finish other than brass?

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#81545 - 09/29/10 09:04 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: GCTom41]
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No rivets. I think the purpose for the "rivets" were to hold the slab sides on. They were actually either pins or bolts in most cases...Either way> That's a "no" at the Randall shop.
With todays epoxies simple pins are all that's needed. The pins keep the slabs from "shifting" if knocked sideways, while the epoxy (if used properly, and the inside of the scales and the knife tang are roughed up a bit) does not let the scales turn loose.
Best, Capt. Chris

PS: Here's a "SCARCE" Model #10-3". The scales are pinned and epoxied at the shop. The scales are old NASA brown G-3 that was left over from all of the Challenger Mission Memorial handle material. The shop made this knife about 3 years ago. (The "Mission Memorial" project has taken a good bit of time to accomplish, as you can see)...CCS


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#81552 - 09/29/10 10:55 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Give ya 200 bucks for that model 10 seen lot's of em. But hell I know you are in the business. So I'll give you an extra 10%.$ 220.00 If you sell me this I'll pay the fees for it even tho it wasn't listed as for sale. Just PM me where to send the check, I can't keep up with all your moving around. Oh yea the check will be written on the east bank of the sawtooth river. May take a while to clear but don't worry it is good.


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#81561 - 09/29/10 03:52 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Steven]
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Somehow I have missed this thread altogether? The 25 is my favorite mod. of all the Randall's. I also like the 26 just about as well. I would be happy with a 25 with a 5 inch blade and stag with silver. The 26 with 4 inch and silver with slab sides sounds really nice also. I think either one would be a great addition for anyone's collection. I would even think about using either one of these.
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#81764 - 10/04/10 05:36 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Sidney_Redford]
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How about a roll call for the following: Choose (vote, if you will) which Randall model you would like to see built. Although this started out referencing Bob Loveless it does not have to be made as close to his design as possible. The Randall Model #26-4", "Pathfinder" would probably match that bill. There are a whole bunch of folks who consider the Model #25, "Trapper" their favorite Randall.
Let's decide on what we are going to build. Not "how" we are going to build it, but which one?? Vote for:
A) Model #25-5", "Trapper"
B) Model #26-4", "Pathfinder"
Let's see if we have enough interest to undertake this meaningful project. I have been reminded that there doesn't seem to be a great bit of swirl around Bob Loveless' passing. Could be...We can still build a nice knife, echoing his tastes...
Best, Capt. Chris
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#81766 - 10/04/10 06:45 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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25-5"
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#81767 - 10/04/10 06:59 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: thevalueman]
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25-5 for me.

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#81768 - 10/04/10 07:20 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: pappy19]
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25-5 for me as well.

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#81770 - 10/04/10 07:32 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: burtont]
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25-5 for me

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#81771 - 10/04/10 08:11 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Tom Vaught]
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A) Model #25-5", "Trapper"
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#81772 - 10/04/10 08:20 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: kimon]
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25-5 would make me happy. So would the 26 Pathfinder. It doesn't take much to make me happy. If I had got a deer with my bow this afternoon that would have made me happy.
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#81773 - 10/04/10 08:29 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: kimon]
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25-5
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#81774 - 10/04/10 08:33 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Leatherman]
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While I do like the #25, I think the slab side stag #26 would be awesome.

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#81775 - 10/04/10 09:23 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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B) Model #26-4", "Pathfinder"
for me!
Thanks,
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#81776 - 10/04/10 09:29 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I'm more interested now in the slab-sided handle than anything else, and that's not available with the #25.

So I vote for the #26.
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#81780 - 10/05/10 06:58 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap't,

Model #26-4", "Pathfinder" Slab side!!

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#81782 - 10/05/10 07:52 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I will vote for

A) Model #25-5", "Trapper"

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#81784 - 10/05/10 09:49 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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#26 Pathfinder, please.

Thanks for the build, Cap.
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#81786 - 10/05/10 10:35 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Capt Chris,
As a tribute to Bob Loveless, I like the slab-sided 26-4.
Thanks for doing the build!
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#81787 - 10/05/10 11:31 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: BladesNBarrels]
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#81788 - 10/05/10 01:32 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: kimon]
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25-5 me to

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#81795 - 10/05/10 06:01 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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After thinking it through, my vote is for "A", model 25.

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#81805 - 10/05/10 08:42 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: New2Randalls]
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26!
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#81819 - 10/06/10 05:19 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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While I do like the #25, I think the slab side stag #26 would be awesome.

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Can we get slab sided stag on a #26?
That would get my vote as well!
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#81832 - 10/06/10 11:23 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Litch]
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I'll go with a 26.

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#81902 - 10/08/10 10:11 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: cliff14094]
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Peter Kaufman said:
"If we can't decide, we could make one of each "

Peter


I say...WHY NOT?? Let's build 'em both. What say you folks? Let's hear your ideas. Nothing is out of bounds for a Loveless Homage pair, including ivory!!
Best, Capt. Chris
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#81904 - 10/08/10 10:19 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I like that idea, a 25 and a 26!

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#81905 - 10/09/10 01:24 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: New2Randalls]
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I would vote for a matched pair. A unique tribute in my opinion.

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#81906 - 10/09/10 08:33 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: burtont]
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I would like to see two made ... BUT ... (there's that wood again smile ) ...
two separate drawings, one for each knife. Two winners.
Different. And less expensive for the winners.
Tony
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#81930 - 10/09/10 09:18 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I like the idea of building two AND Tony' idea of two separate winners.
BRING IT !!!
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#81931 - 10/09/10 09:35 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
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Hear hear for Tony's recommendation!
I like it!!

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#81932 - 10/09/10 09:52 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: PATCH]
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With...or "without" Tony's suggestions, I had no intention of only letting one member have all of the fun. Thanks for bringing it up Tony. Glad we're clear on that one. Here's something to think about, crew. It's real easy and, in fact, simple to come up with a matching pair. #25's are far more limited in handle choices. I challenge you folks to come up with 2 seperate builds, seeing as how they are not going to the same member anyway!!!
Think about it,
Best,Capt. Chris
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#81951 - 10/10/10 09:46 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cool!
When I saw "matched pair" I just thought it meant they would go together.

Along with the #26 ... what about a #11-4" or 5" because it's "The Original Drop-Point Blade" ?
Tony
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#81954 - 10/10/10 12:34 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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25 & 26 is a good idea...
Thanks Tony...
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#81965 - 10/10/10 06:12 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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I'll second the model 11!

heres what I would like to see:

-26-4
-01
-shortened fine silver hilt
-all red spacers
-slab side BPH or TearDrop in Argentine LV (very green in color, more appropriate than micarta)

I could also go with slab side stag (otherwise the same) but in that case it should include an oval shaped Ivory inlay to be laser etched post production with the Loveless nude (backview) from his trademark.

And,

-11-3.5 (better profile than the 11-4)
thumbnotches
-01
-shortened fine silver hilt
-all red spacers
-slab side straight or TearDrop in Argentine LV (very green, more appropriate than plastic (micarta))
-fine silver escutcheon plate, also laser etched with the backview of the Loveless nude--
lanyard tube

the problem with the 25 is that no matter what you can imagine it has already been done-
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#81967 - 10/10/10 06:47 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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I guess it wasn't clear enough, so let me try again...The choices for the pair to be built are the 2 that received all or almost all of the votes:

A) Model #25-5"
B) Model #26-4"
(Not necessarily in that order)
Best, Capt. Chris


Edited by Captain Chris Stanaback (10/10/10 06:47 PM)
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#81969 - 10/10/10 07:19 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Sorry. I didn't understand, again. I guess my mind is on weekend mode. grin
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#81988 - 10/11/10 07:38 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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#82013 - 10/11/10 10:08 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Gamble]
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Hey Captain,

Those two will make a great pair.

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#82380 - 10/22/10 10:45 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Hey Captain,

How about having the handles like the 25 handle style with lignum vitae inserts?

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#82382 - 10/22/10 11:21 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Good idea Alan. That's "doable"...
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#82403 - 10/23/10 10:21 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hey Captain,

A pair like that would be an awesome set. Wouldn't the L.V. add a bit more heft to the knives as compared to Ironwood or Micarta?

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#82406 - 10/24/10 05:55 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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A "bit" more weight? Perhaps a "bit" more but not too much. Lignum Vitae is quite dense but IW is heavy also. On a full handle you would notice the difference more than on a "center", especially on a Model #26 where the center piece of wood is not all that large.
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#82525 - 10/29/10 02:27 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hey Captain,

LV sounds like a perfect handle material. It's an exotic local wood, super tough, outdoor use doesn't phase it - I only see the upside of having this as a handle material on these knives.

I've never had anything with Florida LV, but I made a walking stick from Argentine LV. It is an incredibly tough walking stick that really can give religion to a snappy sled dog.

I say let's go with LV as the handle material on this build.

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#82539 - 10/29/10 02:27 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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I love the idea of using LV, great idea.
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#82593 - 10/31/10 08:34 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: ChadHelpling]
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There we go, Alan and Chad like the LV handle insert idea? Let's go with it, what does everyone else think?

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#82643 - 11/02/10 11:17 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Lignum Vitae is one of my absolute favorite handle materials. It is "push-button-automatic"! "BUT" (That word again) why are we only talking about a #25 styled handle on the #26? Unlike a Model #25, the "Pathfinder" could have a full piece??
Something to think about??
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#82644 - 11/02/10 11:27 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hey Cap ... a question (probably a stupid one crazy)
Can slab sides be had with a wood handle?
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#82645 - 11/02/10 12:48 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony,
Are you speaking of slab sides on a #26...or slabs like on a Model #10? 10's yes. #26...No. Only certain models can be ordered with a flat (or slab) sided handle.
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#82647 - 11/02/10 01:15 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Ok.
I thought from your post of 9/8, that slab sides on a #26 was doable.
I misunderstood.
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#82649 - 11/02/10 01:39 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap't.

I too on a previous vote in early October thought that the slab side was an option for the 26. I'm good with LV full handle on the 26 & an insert on the 25. Classic handle material.

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#82650 - 11/02/10 01:47 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: GCTom41]
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I found my old post where I did mention slab sides in a "PS". I have a call in trying to get a verification, but I thought that I was told "recently" slabs are only available on a select few models, i.e. "Cattleman", "Stanaback Specials", etc. I'll find out. I have to go to the shop tomorrow...to be continued...with or without any more brain farts by me!
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#82652 - 11/02/10 01:50 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Thanks Cap!
And by the way ... I also like the LV / full on a #26!
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#82656 - 11/02/10 02:59 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Thanks for this build, Capt. I, too, like the L/V handles---full, slab or any way you slice it, it's beautiful wood.
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#82660 - 11/02/10 03:58 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
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OK...How about a "ROLL CALL" vote. First of all: I just confirmed that the only "flat" (or slab) sided models available from the Randall shop is "The Cattleman" or "Stanaback Specials" in either blade length. "SO"...That option is not doable on a Model #26. So...How about this: We are going to build a #25-5" and a #26-4" in tribute to a drop point knife maker, none other than Bob Loveless. How about we decide on the following:

A) #25-5", N-25
B) #25-5", B-25

We can have nickel silver and aluminum hardware (N-25) or brass (B-25) depending on what you vote for. Let's here from ya!!!


Second vote:

A) #26-4", N-25
B) #26-4", B-25
C) #26-4", full handle

Vote for your one and only preferred choice for each model. We'll get into the other options shortly, but let's start with this. At least, unlike other votes today, we actually have some "choices" here...and aren't devastated if another choice gets the nod over our #1 choice.
...couple of days...Thanks for your interest.
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#82665 - 11/02/10 05:58 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Outstanding choices!

First:
A)#25-5", N-25

Second:
C)#26-4", full handle
Thanks.
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#82667 - 11/02/10 07:12 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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First vote
B) #25-5", B-25
second vote
C) #26-4", full handle
same wood for both
Thanks for the build
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#82668 - 11/02/10 07:31 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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A & A

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#82671 - 11/02/10 10:23 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: pappy19]
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I'll go with A and A.

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#82672 - 11/02/10 10:35 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: burtont]
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I'll vote for B and C.
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#82674 - 11/03/10 12:55 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: ChadHelpling]
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Hey Captain,

B and C. This a great build.

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#82679 - 11/03/10 07:50 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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B & C it is!

Thanks.

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#82682 - 11/03/10 08:46 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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First Vote:
A) #25-5", N-25
Second Vote:
C) #26-4", full handle
Thanks Cap!
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#82717 - 11/04/10 06:16 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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B&B
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#82737 - 11/05/10 09:16 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Sidney_Redford]
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Capt.

A & A for me.

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#82855 - 11/11/10 10:15 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: PATCH]
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I have to get away from this desk. (I've been riding it for 3 days...enough already!) I am out the door, on my way to Randall. If one of my "crew members" would/could tally up the results of the recent roll call, I'll get us on along with this later (much later) on today. Thanks, in advance, to whomever finds the time.
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#82856 - 11/11/10 10:24 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap,
Have a good trip. Tell DW spring training starts in about 90 days! grin
Here's what I count ...
FIRST VOTE:
A - 5
B - 5
SECOND VOTE:
C - 6
A - 3
B - 1
I think I got that right. smile
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#82860 - 11/11/10 12:38 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Capt,

Have fun at the shop.

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#82866 - 11/12/10 06:54 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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OK...So we still have a little work to do, with regards to the "Trapper"! At least we know what type of handle to put on our "Pathfinder". How about it? Anyone else want to have a vote on the #25?
In the meantime, why don't we decide how we want the #26 made up. Let's hear from ya'.
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#82909 - 11/13/10 08:43 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hey Captain,

How would a nickel silver guard and butt plate look with the LV?

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#82926 - 11/14/10 05:17 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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How about the #26 with an LV "Teardrop" shaped handle?
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#82940 - 11/15/10 07:38 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap't. Chris,

The LV Teardrop sounds good for the 26 handle.

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#82941 - 11/15/10 09:24 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: GCTom41]
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I'd go for a "teardrop" as well.

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#82956 - 11/15/10 05:42 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: pappy19]
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Teardrop sounds great.

Thanks for the builds.
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#83237 - 11/27/10 09:54 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
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Hey Captain,

Is a nickel silver guard and butt plate with a tear drop shaped handle possible?

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#83261 - 11/29/10 07:38 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Possible? Sure...It's possibly Alan. I don't know how close it would be to a Loveless-inspired knife. I cannot remember "plates" on his knives??? Can anyone else?
I think we need to move on with this build so if someone can re-cap the
"where we're at" of this...I'll get to workin' on it later. I have to visit Sullivan's today...

Best, Capt. Chris


Edited by Captain Chris Stanaback (11/29/10 09:49 AM)
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#83563 - 12/09/10 10:44 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hey everyone:
Remember me? I'm the Loveless-inspired Pathfinder! How are we gonna do the make-up? We have a Lignum Vitae handle going on...but what about the "other" stuff? Let me hear from you:

A) Carbon
B) Stainless
C) Thumb notches
D) Brass hilt & spacers
E) Nickel silver hilt & spacers
F) Wrist thong
G) Butts??
H) Sheath??

Best, Capt. Chris
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#83566 - 12/09/10 12:03 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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B,C,E,F & a pouch sheath.

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#83568 - 12/09/10 12:56 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: pappy19]
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A,C,D,F,B and left hand pouch sheath
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#83569 - 12/09/10 01:04 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Capt. Chris,

B,C,D,F & a pouch sheath.

Best Regards!

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#83575 - 12/09/10 02:15 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I vote

B) Stainless
C) Thumb notches
D) Brass hilt & spacers
F) Wrist thong

waxed pouch sheath left hand

thanks for the build
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#83583 - 12/09/10 04:21 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Lignum Vitae handle - Tear Drop shape. (One option???)
B) Stainless (option 2)
C) Thumb notches (option 3)
D) Brass hilt.
Brass/Black spacers (option 4)
F) Wrist Thong.
- Same as Peter! grin
Thanks for the build,
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#83587 - 12/09/10 07:41 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I agree with Peter and Tony. Those options will make a beauty knife.

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#83588 - 12/09/10 08:03 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
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I have always said that Tony and Alan were agreeable guys, great minds think alike smile

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#83595 - 12/09/10 09:31 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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I like B, C, E, and F also, with the pouch sheath. Thanks for the build!
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#83605 - 12/10/10 05:02 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: ChadHelpling]
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B
C
E
F
H no hone & no pouch
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#83612 - 12/10/10 11:34 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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B, C, D, F
waxed pouch
Thanks for the build.


Edited by PATCH (12/10/10 11:35 AM)
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#83756 - 12/13/10 05:43 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: PATCH]
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B
C
D
F and pouch sheath. Thanks for another build
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#83764 - 12/13/10 11:09 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
burtont Offline
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B,C,E,F & a waxed sheath.

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#85069 - 01/17/11 09:40 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: burtont]
Captain Chris Stanaback Offline
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Registered: 09/14/05
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Loc: Central Florida
OK, Crew:
The holidays are behind us. I have tallied up the choices and here's what we have:

* Model #26-4", "Pathfinder"
* Stainless
* Thumb notches
* Brass single hilt
* Brass & black spacers
* CW "Lignum Vitae"
* Wrist thong
* Pouch sheath

That options us out. I will have check on a "Teardrop" shaping, but when I added up your preferences, these were the clear leaders as far as options go. Let me know what ya'll think about this combination. We aren't ready for "numbers" quite yet...but I can smell it comin'. Thanks for your participation.
Best, Capt. Chris
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#85073 - 01/17/11 10:12 AM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
TonyLaPetri Offline
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Registered: 10/05/05
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Loc: Glen Head NY
Sounds great to me!
It would be great if we could get that Tear drop Handle, but I understand it might be a 6th option.
Great build!
Thanks Cap!
Tony
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#85093 - 01/17/11 08:58 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
alan_grombacher Offline
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Registered: 08/20/07
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Loc: Canada
Hey Captain,

This build will be a beauty for sure. It would be good for everything from grouse to bear.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS #5531
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#85096 - 01/17/11 10:40 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: alan_grombacher]
Duke Offline
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Registered: 08/21/09
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Loc: Southwest Virginia
This knife will certainly be great, and, I have been looking at a pathfinder(not like THIS one) and two other Randalls in the last week with a steadily increasing itch. This narrows my list down and looking forward to the drum roll for numbers.

Thanks for the build.
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#85097 - 01/17/11 10:53 PM Re: "Drop Point" Hunter Build...ala "Loveless" [Re: Duke]
Sidney_Redford Offline
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Registered: 10/20/05
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Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns. Va.
That sounds like a nice 26 to me. I already have several but you can't have to many.
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