I know this has been discussed, but I couldn't find it with a search.

What is the long tie down for that runs through the top two holes at the top of the sheath? I know the thong below it ties off the handle, but I don't understand how the top thong is used.

I have asked this before with no avail. I think it is for strapping to your arm or leg or maybe pack strap etc.

I have never found a good use for it so I have always removed it as well as the other top tie. They are easy to put back on if needed

Thanks Ben. Can't imagine strapping a 14 or 18 to your arm or leg, but who knows. Strapping it to a pack makes more sense. I suppose it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have.

IMO Randall should have sullivans make a molle compatable model C sheath. A thick leather strap and a snap would do it.

Seems many soldiers have a hard time affixing the stock sheath to the gear as it is pretty much impossible

I heard they go around the handle for extra security which makes the sheath jump qualified. As when you jump out of an airplane with a parachute. The loops add an extra measure of security to keep the knife from slipping out of the sheath in case you accidentally unsnap the keeper snap while in the air. I could be wrong but this is what I've been told.

Dan Snyder
RKS #5537
SHAG #010

Thanks Dan. I remember reading that explanation too and it makes sense on the lower tie down, but the upper tie down goes through the back and is quite long. That's probably what it's for, but then again, I thought I knew how to tie the wrist thong all these years until the Captain came along and showed us the Randall way.

I have jumped 346 times, not very many compared to a Golden Knight or Navy Seal though.

Really bad to have your knife come out of the sheath when the parachute deploys.

1) You don't have your expensive Randall Knife anymore

2) Your Randall knife might "meet up" with one of your buddies on the way down.

Strapped and Tied Down means safe journey when in the air.

Tom Vaught

I have jumbed 32 times...only !!!

WOW! Thats a lot of jumps Tom. Static-line or free-fall?

346 jumps, what were you a Super Master Blaster?

Static Line, Free-Fall jumps in the US and later during work in S.E Asia, some training in HALO/HAHO, along with a bunch of "Hollywood" jumps in my free time.

"Master Blaster?" or "Super Master Blaster", is a military term and I spent the majority of my time in Asia as a Civilian.

Heck, my secretary jumped! Once! Course she was in a tandem rig.
Used to call me "old man" I told her "jump out of the airplane 'kid' and then we will talk". She did jump. (one time) that was enough for her. She later became a NAUI "Master Scuba Diver" & IANTD "Elite Diver", started her own dive company and traveled the world diving for big bucks. One of our members (David) on the board, a Master Diver might have even met her.

The Seals constantly practice Tandem Jumping. When you want to get a specialist in a field into a area, it beats the heck out of months of training like I had.

Tom Vaught

Howdy Everyone,
I am on my back-up laptop and hooked up on some local, very very s-l-o-w connection. I will not have internet or phone service until Tuesday! Please phone me if anyone has problems or questions. (1-407-436-1113)
The top paracord is intended for several purposes / all of them related to attaching the sheath in various ways to a variety of equipment. Shoulder hook-up, inverted on a jump harness or MaeWest are just a couple of them. Ben was also correct in mentioning a pack...but also a pack "horse" or just about anything else you can conjour up!
I have a #18-5 1/2" that I rig up on a small day pack (Used mostly at night, actually) when trailing game. It mounts on my left shoulder, inverted and ready to go should I need it for "God knows what". Track a big boar at night and you'll figure it out! Thi rig allows me to carry my Glock 10mm on my right hip and neither interfere with each other.
Hope this helps:
Helplessly tele-communicationally lost, Capt. Chris

Capt. If your into serious hunting look into a Mystery Ranch or Kifaru pack. MR is the best for hunting. Plus you can have Pals webbing on the waistbelt and have your pistol on it or whatever else you need.

PS. My Mystery Ranch packs have a elastic band on the strap near the top, that combined with the 550 tie would be a pretty good securement method I would think!

Capt
Tell us what happened. oldguy

I would not jump one time either :-) I dont trust this parachute things lol

When I was a GI (long ago) I carried my 8" Model 1 strapped to the outside of my right thigh; it worked just fine. The lower thong wrapped around by leg but I used a cut-down GI belt & buckle (covered with olive-drab tape to eliminate the shine) through the upper belt loop and around my leg instead of the upper leather thong because it felt like a tournequet when tightened. The outer thigh position was the best place to carry the knife in the field-- it had to be out of the way but still accesible and in a place that would not get covered with mud & dirt or be in a position to accidentally stab myself by poking through the sheath.

One day when returning to our Kaserne from a field exercise in Germany, a snotty little MP accosted me for carrying an illegal (over 4" blade) knife and took me to the MP station. Of course, in addition to the Randall, I was carrying an M14 rifle, 80 rounds of ammo, a Walther PP, and two grenades. The young MP explained to the old desk sergeant that I was carrying an illegal knife; the ol' sarge looked at me and then the young MP and growled "Get outta here!"

Well I don't know about either. Tom, did Captain show it in this forum?? If so, where??

Respectfully,
Chuck

I don't get on the forum much really.

I do not remember seeing the Upper-Tie-down method he uses.
Maybe someone else has the info.

Tom Vaught

For 21 years, I have backpacked with a Dana Design Terraplane pack. If Dana Gleason is making his Mystery Ranch packs like the old Dana Design packs, they are bomb proof. Good suggestion, Ben.





Since we were talking Model C sheaths tie downs, I was thinking about the additional weight of a #14 & #18 being strapped onto an arm or leg with paracord. I can see where a Model 1 with a wide strap through the belt loop would work on the thigh. Good story. Thanks for sharing!




Here you go, Chuck...

http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthread...=true#Post92060

Dana is the head guy at MR!