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#107863 - 02/01/13 10:34 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) *** [Re: Leatherman]
Kenstix Offline
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Registered: 01/29/13
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Hi Tony , Good to see You here too. I usually desribe the Aging on Antique Ivory & Brown Micarta(It Ages Brown- doesn't start out that way & never Did . Sometimes both of these can start out yellow or Natural inside)There are some Papers & Tan Linens that are Pressed for those Colors, but the old Vintage Aged Brown Ain't one of em' . I Assure You ANY Micarta I sell is Expensive, Bleached linen/cotton, and Micarta Brand Usually W-house or I-P and IS what I Say it is . I've seen the people at e_ _ y that dont Know, Have or know Anything about Micarta . There is Nothing INFERIOR about My Stock unless somebody is Expecting Antique Gold or Ivoritr from these 2 batches. I dont sell the Brand that starts with an 'N' & never have. Wish people would Ask questions before they buy like Leatherman did, Rather than come at me with half baked Information. I cut Blanks (with NO complaints - but praise) for the Kind of Randall Customers That have the Maximum of builds put in from the from All the Dealers All Year/Every Year. I hate to mention this here but I'm told I know more about MICARTA recipes than Any Dealer (and stay alive from being TRUSTWORTHY), sorry. I can tell You about the Insulator Handle stuff (Molded Linen) Any Paper or Linen Recipe or Color Recipe We use on Handles (Randalls & Customs ) of ANY Vintage Westinghouse or Intl. Paper Recipe whether Decorative or Not. I Highly Doubt I can learn Anything about Westinghouse Micarta here , I've learned most of it from Professional Micarta dealers who know hardly ANYTHING about our world. I came here to Educate mainly. Asbestos is a whole nother world of misunderstanding as is sometimes shown in the Cue & Knife world. Epoxies were used By WH & IP in resins such as My Ivory/white linens that preserves just as Nicely. Kenstix


Edited by Kenstix (02/01/13 11:03 PM)
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#107864 - 02/01/13 11:21 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
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Hi Ben and Yes I have a few Blocks of that linen with a Slightly larger weave than the A-Ivory but Smaller than Canvas (Running low though, on it) I can do Slotted or CDT Blank Blocks. PM me if You'd like , trying to upload a pic of a couple Randalls with my Linen. This material will Age.
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Hey Griff - LTNS (or hear smile I figured You'd have that #14 back by now , could You send me a Pic ? What's funny is - I think we did Your Slot in a Vintage 1" W~H Maroon block but it's more subtle than any new-school Maroon material. I'm super glad it came out Nice.

Thanks Griff & Ben - Ken


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#107865 - 02/01/13 11:29 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
TonyLaPetri Offline
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Ok Ken,
Just to be clear, the photos I posted are of Micarta I bought from you. Yes?
I say yes, BTW.
I don't think the person who told me not to use it is wrong.
That's that, I guess.
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#107866 - 02/01/13 11:38 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: TonyLaPetri]
Kenstix Offline
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The 2 Randalls Above are the same material, Guess they look super Krappy Huh ?.
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#107867 - 02/01/13 11:42 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
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No, they look fine.
But they're not yellow.
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#107868 - 02/01/13 11:44 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: TonyLaPetri]
Kenstix Offline
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They're Ant. Ivory & the Blocks looked the same when i worked Them up ~ ANTIQUE GOLD STAYS COMPLETELY YELLOW. I'm Done here for Tonite - My heads throbbing from bouncing it on the Cement.


Edited by Kenstix (02/01/13 11:49 PM)
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#107870 - 02/01/13 11:47 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
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Ok.
But just so I undeRstand, and I DO want to understand.
If it's the same material as the block I posted ... which is yellow in color,
then it does get darker. Yes?
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#107871 - 02/01/13 11:52 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: TonyLaPetri]
Kenstix Offline
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Antique Ivory Batches aren't as predictable on the Vintage stock. Antique gold is pretty predictable because of the resin. they both can start out Yellow, Ken
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#107872 - 02/01/13 11:56 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
Doug74 Offline
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Registered: 12/15/08
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Originally Posted By: Kenstix
The 2 Randalls Above are the same material, Guess they look super Krappy Huh ?.


Yes, that stuff turns a real crappy butterscotch color......just as I remember. Thanks for showing that Ken. Just imagine purchasing a block of that "stuff" and being told (via the description and telephone) that it would be YELLOW. NO mention of Brown/Butterscotch that it would turn into within days of purchase. It was like watching mold grow on cheese.

Tony....I purchased from the same guy you did (I can tell from the photos you posted). Was also told by a very well respected, long-time Randall dealer that it was bad stuff. Ken, are you the guy? Inquiring minds want to know.

By the way, I received a PM from another gentleman who has had the same experience with this stuff. Caveat Emptor!!!!!

Ken, make sure you pay the forums the standard fee for selling your material.....or are you just "educating" some of us lunkheads?
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#107873 - 02/01/13 11:57 PM Re: Westinghouse Micarta (Starting with Ivorite) [Re: Kenstix]
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Ok.
I understand ... the difference between Antique Ivory and Antique Gold.
Sorry for all the questions. That's how ya learn!
Thanks Ken.
Have a good night.
Tony
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