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#135763 - 01/10/16 05:37 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: tunefink]
Tom Vaught Knife Enthusiast Registered: 04/26/10 Posts: 574 Loc: Michigan	Thanks for the Link, Tune. So it turned out to be a little Civic Action to remove a man-eater, causing havoc with the villagers. Personally I would have not done it any differently. A lot safer to kill a tiger from a helicopter vs having to deal with one in the jungle. The Tiger always wins on that deal. Basically, again, just a unique skinning/trophy job with a Randall Knife. Tom V. Edited by Tom Vaught (01/10/16 05:38 PM) _________________________ Tom Vaught RKS# 5100
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#135773 - 01/10/16 11:06 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: Tom Vaught]
hharke Just dropped in Registered: 11/08/15 Posts: 5	Originally Posted By: Tom Vaught More real knife fights happened in bars vs in combat. Even then most of the fights were one-sided where the opposing fighter saw he was out-matched by a more skilled combatant, or a combatant who appeared to be more skilled, (or had a bigger knife). A knife fighter makes an excellent target (for most hand guys) if the person with the hand gun is not taken by surprise. A couple of links to about the 21 foot rule ie Gun/Knife "combat". http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/articles/2014/09/revisiting-the-21-foot-rule.aspx "Whether the "21-Foot Rule" is an applicable defense in an officer-involved shooting actually depends upon the facts and evidence of each case." This video shows the difference between a surprise attack and the LEO being aware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KJ1R2PCMM https://www.policeone.com/close-quarters...e-valid-Part-2/ So if the opposing soldier were taken by surprise by a "knife guy" in a specific unit possibly there would be some 'micro' basis for leaving the blood on the knife vs cleaning the blade (as a bragging point). Tom V. Personally I say BS. 21 ft rule (Lt Tule actually came up with it) is irrelevant in military. Happened a lot more than you imagine in SOG during that time frame. go to Tunefink's site, Randall catalogs 1982, page 30 testimonials for "RKH" who actually was "RLH" then page 20. Edited by hharke (01/10/16 11:09 PM)
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#135779 - 01/11/16 11:10 AM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: hharke]
maxpastor Knife Enthusiast Registered: 07/31/14 Posts: 849 Loc: South West	hharke, those were very interesting video's and good information. thanks for posting. max _________________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." RKCC #502
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#135806 - 01/12/16 09:44 AM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: maxpastor]
Tom Vaught Knife Enthusiast Registered: 04/26/10 Posts: 574 Loc: Michigan	I have spoken with at least 500 people "who were with SOG" over the last 50 years so I take most of that info with a grain of salt unless it came from a guy like Richard Meadows or Arthur Simon. Few actually do much talking (except for Plaster). Tom V. SOG was a long time ago and typically the only people selling SOG knives with blood on them are people looking to score some cash. Edited by Tom Vaught (01/12/16 10:18 AM) _________________________ Tom Vaught RKS# 5100
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#135810 - 01/12/16 10:34 AM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: Tom Vaught]
hharke Just dropped in Registered: 11/08/15 Posts: 5	Originally Posted By: Tom Vaught I have spoken with at least 500 people "who were with SOG" over the last 50 years so I take most of that info with a grain of salt unless it came from a guy like Richard Meadows or Arthur Simon. Few actually do much talking (except for Plaster). Tom V. SOG was a long time ago and typically the only people selling SOG knives with blood on them are people looking to score some cash. Not really, have had numerous opportunities to sell the knife over the years to include members of this board and no interest in selling. BTW, only 157 Seals were in VN, I have met all 2000 of them too. I served with many SOG guys over the year, but I was not one. They will not talk publicly for sure, but in house is a different story. For example, "RLH" had a Chinese General Officer belt buckle on his wall that few saw that was taken, not given. Was just trying to see if anyone else had heard of unmarked Randalls. Edited by hharke (01/12/16 03:24 PM)
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#135811 - 01/12/16 10:52 AM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: Tom Vaught]
crutchtip Knife Enthusiast Registered: 11/16/05 Posts: 2854	Originally Posted By: Tom Vaught ............. typically the only people selling SOG knives with blood on them are people looking to score some cash. Ya think? That holds true for the "war story" knife in general. Here is a legitimate piece I recently sold. The description says it all. http://www.rmkcollector.com/product-details/2-5-macv-sog-provenance _________________________ www.rmkcollector.com BUY-SELL-TRADE
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#135815 - 01/12/16 03:23 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: Tom Vaught]
hharke Just dropped in Registered: 11/08/15 Posts: 5	Originally Posted By: Tom Vaught I have spoken with at least 500 people "who were with SOG" over the last 50 years so I take most of that info with a grain of salt unless it came from a guy like Richard Meadows or Arthur Simon. Few actually do much talking (except for Plaster). Tom V. SOG was a long time ago and typically the only people selling SOG knives with blood on them are people looking to score some cash. Since only 2000 ever served with SOG and were 300 KIA, I am interested in where you spoke with "at least 500" (1/3 of the survivors) of them. I served 20+ years in SF most at Fort Bragg (1972-1996) and I never met that many, but I served with more than a few. Guess it is time for my BS flag to get thrown.
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#135817 - 01/12/16 04:24 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: hharke]
Ronnie Knife Enthusiast Registered: 02/13/11 Posts: 2270 Loc: NW Mississippi	Why is it that all my stuff is shit and everybody else's shit is stuff? Ronnie Edited by Ronnie (01/12/16 04:25 PM) _________________________ Ronnie RKS#2166
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#135824 - 01/12/16 06:28 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: Ronnie]
oldguy Knife Enthusiast Registered: 04/27/11 Posts: 779 Loc: Yeehaw Junction	Originally Posted By: Ronnie Why is it that all my stuff is shit and everybody else's shit is stuff? Ronnie Ronnie, Thank You. _________________________ RKCC #CM055
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#135825 - 01/12/16 06:32 PM Re: Ex-SOG Randall (maybe) [Re: oldguy]
Ronnie Knife Enthusiast Registered: 02/13/11 Posts: 2270 Loc: NW Mississippi	You bet oldguy. _________________________ Ronnie RKS#2166
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