John's knife has little to no top bevel as does the knife you describe - third from the bottom - as I see it. In fact, all of the knives pictured seem to have some type of top bevel grind. John's knife doesn't look as "Scagelesque" ( for lack of a better term) as some of those earlier ones. we know blade grinds were all over the place, but those in the photo seem pretty consistent with the presence of top bevel grinds.

Not saying it couldn't be 39-40. Also not saying it couldn't be 41-42 either.

How does the stone pouch option make the knife 1940? You answer you own question by asking has anyone seen a pancake sheath with a stone pouch. I don't recall seeing one. Brian's knife is clearly late 1942 at the earliest and it has no stone pouch.



I do believe the Zach fighter was the impetus for the new style sheath as shown above. It is the first I have ever seen. Here is another without a stone pouch as was the original Zach sheath so it was not a given the fighters had stone pouches. This one is obviously later than Tune's knife, but not by much. A month or two?