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#145223 - 07/19/16 08:43 PM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 *** [Re: Wally]
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You are right Wally. Ridgeway was the Div. Commanding General.
My cousin was Exec. Officer of D Co. 2nd. Bat. 505th PIR 82nd A/B Division.
He was nominated for the Medal of Honor for actions on June 7th at Ste. Mere Eglise. However it was downgraded to the DSC. However my cousin didn't carry a Randall!


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#145224 - 07/19/16 08:51 PM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Ronnie]
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Operation Overlord, the 82nd Airborne Division was divided into three forces:

Force A (parachute): the three parachute infantry regiments and support detachments, commanded by Assistant Division Commander Brig. Gen. James Gavin,
Force B (glider): the glider infantry regiment and artillery battalions, and airborne support elements, commanded by Division Commander Maj. Gen. Matthew B. Ridgway, and
Force C (seaborne): remaining combat elements, division support troops and attached units including tanks, landing at Utah Beach, commanded by Assistant Division Commander Brig. Gen. George P. Howell.

Following Normandy, the 82nd Airborne became part of the newly organized XVIII Airborne Corps, which consisted of the U.S. 17th, 82nd, and 101st Airborne Divisions. Ridgway was given command, but was not promoted to lieutenant general until 1945. His recommendation for succession as commander was Brigadier General James M. Gavin. Ridgway's recommendation met with approval, and upon promotion Gavin became the youngest general since the Civil War to command a U.S. Army division

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#145243 - 07/19/16 11:05 PM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Eric]
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This is all excellent military history guys..."but"...(I know)...Please: Let's stay on topic, thanks.
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#145245 - 07/20/16 12:54 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Thanks Eric.
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#145250 - 07/20/16 08:05 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Ronnie]
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Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
It appears to everyone observing it that the only markings (stamping, if you will) on the back of the early Maurice Johnson roughback Model A sheath was the Randall sheath stamp..."WRONG"!! Look in the butterfly: 1 6 !! The search continues for the truth and actual facts about this historic knife.


Cap,

The model / length marking on the back of the sheath was not stamped. It was applied freehand.

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#145251 - 07/20/16 08:51 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Wally]
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Wally or Captain,

Curious, how was the General's edge? Sharp? Did it appear that the knife had been used and resharpened throughout its life?
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#145252 - 07/20/16 08:56 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: TAH]
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Carried quite a bit but I would have to say not harsh-used at all. It may not have ever been touched up.
Ron: The numbers were "set", i.e. singularly stamped, as best as I can tell. They are faint, by comparison to most I have seen. In actuality, the friggin' Randall sheath stamp was not all that "deep" either.
* Note: Just observations "after-the-fact". As I stated earlier, nobody even noticed the 1 6 during the entire "inspection"! (Just goes to show how "spot-on" Wally, Lori & I are!)
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#145255 - 07/20/16 09:21 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap,

Faint or not, IMO the numbers were made freehand. As you mentioned, we're searching for the truth here. I have to run for a DDS appointment. Later today I'll post an enlargement of the marking. When I do, I think you'll align with me.
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#145256 - 07/20/16 09:51 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: BoBlade]
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Could be Ron?? Like I said, it went un-noticed. I never said anybody was fudgin' the truth. Good luck at your appt.
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#145260 - 07/20/16 11:45 AM Re: General Westmoreland's Randall Made model 5 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap,

If this marking was made by a stamp, the die maker was several sheets to the wind:



Can we agree now? Thanks.
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