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#158922 - 04/05/17 09:49 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: W Polidori]
Tattoo Bill Offline
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Originally Posted By: W Polidori
Bill,

Didn't some of the show up in Jack Criders green catalog?


Those had standard or slightly longer blade lengths.

One other option that is plausible.....

Could it be one of Dave Griffin's Drop Point knives?

Maybe Scott has some clues?
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#158923 - 04/05/17 10:18 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Sorry gentleman, but you're all mistaken...this is one of the stolen BLADES knives from the "raspy voice" dude from a few years back...long story...maybe another day...
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#158924 - 04/05/17 10:34 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Dirty_Water]
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#158925 - 04/05/17 10:38 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: RamKingJC]
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Thank you Scott. Another mystery solved!
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#158926 - 04/05/17 10:57 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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For all of us relative 'newbies' on the scene, please don't leave us hanging. Inquiring minds want to know.

What's the deal with "the stolen BLADE knives from the "raspy voice" dude a few years back"? Can we get at least a capsule summary of the situation?

Is the pictured knife a genuine RMK shop-made knife? Is it a fake? Is it an altered shop-made knife? How it is identified as one of "the stolen BLADE knives from the raspy voice dude"? What model is it (or what model is it supposed to be)? To my relatively inexperienced eye, it looks more like a scaled-down Model 26 than anything else.

Thanks.

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#158927 - 04/05/17 11:07 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
Sorry gentleman, but you're all mistaken...this is one of the stolen BLADES knives from the "raspy voice" dude from a few years back...long story...maybe another day...


I figured this thread could get interesting but had no idea it would be THIS interesting. Carry on men. ;-)
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#158928 - 04/05/17 11:12 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: JE6245]
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I want to caution using the terms "fake" and "altered" interchangeably. They are two distinct animals.

Fakes are readily identifiable as is the knife Tune posted.

Altered can sometimes throw a curve ball as this one did until DW chimed in.
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#158929 - 04/05/17 11:17 AM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: crutchtip]
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The sheath appears correct...and Scott is also. I almost held this dude at my table, many moons ago, long enough to get the "Law-Dogs" to question him. He was walking around a Lakeland gun show with about 20 altered RMK's on a bandalero belt, over one shoulder! Many were Model #14's, #15's, etc. and all of those sheaths were fake, i.e. having not been made by Sullivans or Johnson. They had the correct-looking sheath "stamp" but not correct leather. It should be noted that I have downloaded these pics to my computer for a better look.
This guy did, indeed, have a very raspy voice. He was short and heavy set, wearing large Rx glasses, highly magnified. He was buddies with Charlie Scannapeico and, after the Lakeland encounter, he submerged...not to be seen again!
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Edited by Captain Chris Stanaback (04/05/17 11:45 AM)
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#158934 - 04/05/17 02:13 PM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Thanks for the info so far. More photos attached. The blade is only 7/8 inch at its widest, 3/16 stock. Handle length, including the spacer, is 3 13/16.
It doesn't have the blade width of the 11 3 1/4, and the stamp on the blade is straight not angled. Handle length and stated sheath don't match.
It has a drop point, unlike the GTR.
The grind differs from the Dave Griffin photos I can see online. His sheath maker seams to be the same as mine. My sheath has no "R", and has Fla. in the stamp. My blade is stamped with Fl.
I bought it from a gun dealer's table at a gun show in Phoenix. I am happy to entertain that it may be altered, or mismatched to the sheath. But, I have lots of other Randalls, purchased directly from RMK, and the fit and finish of this one appear just as finely done and original as any. It doesn't appear altered, and why would someone alter one?
Happy to show it to anyone more knowledgeable than me in the Phoenix area if interested.


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#158935 - 04/05/17 02:24 PM Re: Help Identify Randall Model [Re: Larry Ducati]
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Stolen blade, done outside the shop, MAYBE from former employee, looks like crap when next to one directly from the shop...sheath most likely done with the same equipment as your original because their the SAME machines, a little BYRDie did it...
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