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#100025 - 03/29/12 08:23 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah ***** [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Alan
The rock art is all over southern Utah, there are places where it is easy accessible, and other areas where it is way out of the way like in the photo.

Tony
We have black bears, mule deer, big horn sheep, coyotes, elk in the mountains and mountain lions also. I think it is uncommon to see the big cats.
I am hoping to see the sheep soon and on the hike we saw a lot of fresh mule deer scat, but no deer.
This place is nothing like the east.

I first visited here about 15 years ago and it really got to me

Peter
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#100026 - 03/29/12 08:55 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Peter,
Sounds great! Mule Dear are also called Black Tail Dear ... I think that's what
Teddy Roosevelt says in one of his books that I'm reading.
I hope you get to see some big horn sheep ... and get a photo!
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#100032 - 03/29/12 01:27 PM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony Mule deer and Black Tails are two different deer. Blacktails don't get as large and are found mostly in the Pacific North West. They are found in other places also, but are not as wide spread as Mulies.
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#100035 - 03/29/12 06:20 PM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: Sidney_Redford]
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Got it.
In HUNTING TRIPS OF A RANCHMAN Roosevelt hunts Black Tail Dear in the
Western Plains / The Bad Lands ... Dakota territories. Maybe their habitat has
changed since the 1800s.
Thanks,
Tony
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#100049 - 03/29/12 10:25 PM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony I hope Teddy was better at animal spieces than he was at shooting. He was a pretty poor shot. He was also one of our first progressives(sp).
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#100052 - 03/30/12 12:31 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: Sidney_Redford]
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Tony,

What Teddy called black tail deer are actually mule deer. Back in the day, mule deer were commonly called black tail deer.

Sidney is correct too in that the real black tail deer are in the PNW and range up through B.C. into Southern Alaska.

Cheers,

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#100055 - 03/30/12 08:52 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: alan_grombacher]
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Alan,
Thanks ... from further reading in the book, that makes sense.

Sidney ... he WAS a poor shot and he says so in his writings.

Thanks Guys,
Tony
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#100057 - 03/30/12 09:13 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Poor shot...Yeah...but how good of a shot would "any" of us be if we had to wear those glasses! Look like the bottom of Coca Cola bottle!!
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#100061 - 03/30/12 10:31 AM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: Sidney_Redford]
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A nice Stetson like the character on Justified. Raylon Givens. By the way it is a cool show. Bad ass Federal Deputy Marshall in Kentucky. Plus it is a great hat.
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#100077 - 03/30/12 08:50 PM Re: Hiking in SE Utah [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony,

You should get a new Winchester 1895 carbine in 30-40 Krag - just like some of Teddy Roosevelt's Roughriders took with them up San Juan Hill. A fun rifle to shoot, and pretty accurate. Then you could take it out West and hunt "Black Tails".

Alan
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