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#79972 - 08/27/10 01:47 PM Re: This Old Randall * [Re: pardinskie]
tunefink Offline
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It looks like one of the Mini Bowies..... especially with the cover style sheath with no keeper or stone pouch.

I think there were some pictures of Mini Bowies in the Green Catalog. I don't have those files on the laptop or I would look.

Just my .02.
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#79973 - 08/27/10 01:52 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: tunefink]
pardinskie Offline
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More pics of model 13 .....

Thanks again for input.

Paul


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#79974 - 08/27/10 02:14 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
TonyLaPetri Offline
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Guys,
In Rhett's Green Catalog, page 9 ...
P-33 Miniature Model 13
6" blade.
this one has ...
Brass lugged hilt. Scalloped collar and butt.
Engraved hilt. Ebony handle. With sheath (sheath has a keeper strap)
Less than 5 made!
Unfortunately Im not in my office or I would scan the photo/description.
Tony
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#79977 - 08/27/10 02:56 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: TonyLaPetri]
pardinskie Offline
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Oh my, less than 5 made! However I don't think it's
Ebony. Looks more like a man made material. There is
an obvious texture to it and appears to be a very dark red.
It does appear to be a grain though.

Thanks for the info so far, hope to get more.

Vintage? And where do you get these manufacturing numbers?
Rehett's green catalog? Very interesting.
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#79979 - 08/27/10 03:01 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
pardinskie Offline
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My thanks to The Captain, Tunefink and Tony.

Tony, if you could post the page with the info
it would be greatly appreciated. When ever you have time.


Edited by pardinskie (08/27/10 03:15 PM)
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#79980 - 08/27/10 03:28 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
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Sure.
Unless someone has a digital file that they could post ...
on Monday, I'll scan the page and post it!
Tony
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#79981 - 08/27/10 03:36 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
Captain Chris Stanaback Offline
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It's a "mini". Is it a "real" mini? That's a great question. I wouldn't put a whole lot of credence in the "5 only". If that's the case...I've seen every single one ever made...TWICE!! As far as the "cutouts" as you call them, Paul. The artistic "choils" are only included on the #13-6". Your #13 has a 6" blade, but it is a miniature version of the #13-12". The Model #13-12" does "not" have the cutouts and, therefore, neither does the miniature. Actually Randall miniatures are really "half-size" replices of the originals...not true miniatures. This explains the #13-12 stamped on the sheath even though it is a 6" blade. Hope this helps. Also: The handle looks like the old G-3 to me???
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: In 1885 or 86 I visited the Randall shop and Dave (Dave Griffin) told me he had some knives in my "drawer". One was a #1-7" in elephant ivory that Rick Bowles had turned down due to the handle size. (I think it was slightly under-sized) The other was a #13 "mini" in rosewood (or walnut...I'm working on old memory here). I said "great"...and then Bo walked out and put the squash on that. He did agreed to sell me the ivory Model #1 but I got shot down on the mini #13. That exact knife sits in the museum, first glass cabinet on the right as you enter the "first" museum roon (The one with 2 doors and an entrance way from the shop's counter room....CCS


Edited by Captain Chris Stanaback (08/27/10 03:39 PM)
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#79982 - 08/27/10 04:09 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
pardinskie Offline
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Thanks Captain Chris, great info.

Now I know why it doesn't have choils at the hilt.

"Real Mini" I know that some country(ies) are trying to copy
any thing of value that our country has ever made. Also a coin collector, I have seen copies of valuable coins all over e-bay. However my being in possesion of this knife for at least 30 years
(I know it's only my word) I am fairly confident these copies of coins and knifes are pretty recent.

How would one get it authenticated, if indeed it has substantial
value?

My thanks again to Captain Chris for instructions on how to do a
proper photo and post.
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#79983 - 08/27/10 04:19 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
pardinskie Offline
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Captain Chris,
Oh, also don't understand
"The handle looks like the old G-3 to me???"
Thanks, Paul
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#79985 - 08/27/10 05:42 PM Re: This Old Randall [Re: pardinskie]
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G-3 is a very early type of micarta like material, they now use a material called G-10. It is a customer furnished material, not offered through the shop. I can authenticate it if you would like. You can reach me at perry@spaceportcutlery.com


Edited by Perry Miller (08/27/10 05:45 PM)
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