Just heard on TV that there were three more armed Sheriff's Deputies on site, but did not go in to engage. [I suspect they are not trained in the skills needed to engage a bad guy in the midst of many innocent people, and would be held accountable for any casualties among those they are to protect.]

Sheriff Israel is throwing stones at the NRA (wonder if he is posturing for some electoral bid) and the NRA is throwing rocks at him.

The shouting and fault finding does nothing to get at underlying social, cultural, and institutional problems.

Meanwhile, something else that is interesting to watch--politicians don't want to be undercut by having their policy positions taken away from them by the opposition.

Guys, keep the politics in the Lounge. These conversations often go off the rails.

Thanks,

righto....I have been also amused the Glock talk threads turn inevitably to 1911, while a 1911 discussion turns to Glock, while this one on a map pocket whippet turns to NAAs, Glocks, AND 1911s.

Ain't it grand!

OHMYGOSH!

Now you guys have gotten me really confused!! I don't know what to talk about!!!

Wayne

There's always the subject of women

The older you get, the more THAT one is like discussing a museum visit, one half of the museum dedicated to the theory of beauty thru the ages, and the other half, aircraft crashes and train wrecks thru history

And then there is the subject about pocket pistols,I don't know how that compares with all the other stuff but it is still interesting.

I just thought that I would add to the confusion.

Wayne

I wish I could contribute more, but had stuck with the stainless Bodyguard and then the NAA since the '80s, until the little Glocks came out. In the meanwhile, from the 70's to date, a pile of money trying about everything else ever made, from 1920s Sauer ünd Söhn German stuff, Babys, Bauer, Seecamp and clones, on up. Reliable is what counted, and they all went away, sooner or later.

The G43 pretty much a culmination of a search which would fit in a pocket, work every time, and put them all in a handspan at 25yds, and even a decent round. I know that with nothing, if the CNS not tagged, the game is still on, and I wanted accurate enough to do that.

My 43 will dang near shoot with my 19, it's amazing.

Pap

I am glad to hear mine is not a fluke...two, actually. As posted elsewhere, and probably more than once, I took my shiny toy out back to the 25yd line, simply standing there, and very first magazine put 5 dead center under 2" with one out 3" from center at 8 o'clock and one out 3" from center at 10 o'clock. I felt as if I were shooting a full sized service pistol .45ACP. All I could think was, "...after all this time....finally...."

The other has done just as well, the first was gifted to a female friend needing something, and it a known good one, and have had zero malfunctions of any sort whatsoever with either. Icing on the cake has been generally showing only a 50-75fps velocity loss from what a G17 gets with most ammo. Am getting just shy of 1200fps with the WinWhite 115grJHPs which are just as reliable expanders out of the 43 as the boutique stuff, only not as pretty.