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#167075 - 12/13/17 02:51 PM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Birdsinhere2]
Wayne Dengler Offline
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Coach,
Yipes!!!! Looks like the 410 3" Bond would be just the right medicine for them!!!!

Seems if you have that many of them critters around,I would probably have the Bond in my hand and not a holster as soon as I set foot outside the house,maybe inside as well!!!!!

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#167076 - 12/13/17 03:13 PM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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I stepped on this little feller last spring as I stepped out my front door onto the front porch.

I had been watching the NFL Combines and had wondered how my I might fare these days. I know my 40 time is not what it used to be and my bench press is down too.

But at 61, my 48" VERTICAL JUMP is still intact!


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#167077 - 12/13/17 03:33 PM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: coachblalock]
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In the Coaches case... a Judge is probably a better idea... also following the skip the holster idea recommended by Wayne...
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#167086 - 12/13/17 07:55 PM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: RamKingJC]
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So Coach, did you shoot him as you were going up or coming down? Or both?
***No "rattlers were shown in these pics. of both live & deceased Copperheads"


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#167097 - 12/14/17 09:20 AM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Duke]
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If I am not mistaken,the Copperhead is a more aggressive snake than the Rattlesnake.

Either way,I would not like to be in close proximity to either one.

The venom in these snakes is basically a digestive enzyme and from what I have heard,the venom of the Copperhead is a more destructive enzyme.

My classmate of many years ago was one of the founding Doctors' of the Miami/Dade Venom One squad. They are quite busy in that area handling snake calls as well as 'gator calls. Better them then me.

Wayne
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#167098 - 12/14/17 10:04 AM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Wayne, I would agree, Copperheads account for more cases of venomous snake bites than any other North American species. However, their venom is less toxic than the rattlers, so their bite is seldom fatal. Most fatal bites in North America are attributed to the Eastern and Western Diamondback rattlesnakes. Michigan only has 1 venomous snake, The Eastern Massasauga rattlesnake, and they are federally protected.

I will be using my new Bond Arms Derringer on 10 pins and water-filled milk Jugs.


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#167099 - 12/14/17 10:07 AM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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I haven't had any personal encounters with a Copperhead, to the best of my knowledge.

Rattlesnakes, unless they feel threatened, would just as soon leave you alone than be aggressive. My experience with rattlers anyway.

Cottonmouth, a whole different story. Very aggressive, and in general just a bad ass snake. They demand respect if you're in their area.
Encountered this guy a couple years ago, he stood his ground as you can see eek


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#167100 - 12/14/17 10:29 AM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Michael_Mason]
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"Red touching yellow dangerous fellow; red touching black safe for Jack"
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#167101 - 12/14/17 11:17 AM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: W Polidori]
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Originally Posted By: W Polidori
"Red touching yellow dangerous fellow; red touching black safe for Jack"


Yeah, that's to differentiate between a king snake and a coral snake.

Coral snakes have really nasty venom but the fangs are in the back of the jaw. If you're wearing boots you're not gonna get injected unless you give them a lot of time to work on you. Also, they tend to be rather docile and would rather go about their own business.
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#167107 - 12/14/17 01:33 PM Re: Bond Arms Derringer [Re: Windsor]
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Water Moccasins (also known as Cotton Mouths) have been known to have a nasty reputation,and from what I have heard and seen from the above post,will not back down and slither away.

In New England there are some venomous snakes but they are very few and far between.

When fly fishing I always have my Bond 410 (2.5) in my vest pocket not really so much for the pretty much non existant snakes but for the two legged variety of critters.

I met a gentleman a couple of months ago who was visiting folks east. He was from the Midland area of Texas. Said it is generally common to have to have a J frame or maybe a Bond in a back pocket holster.

Seems that there are a number of encounters each week with some sort of snake.

Another poem about Coral Snakes:

Black and yellow,kill a fellow
Red and black,venom lack

As for me,I don't stay around to look,I just GTFO.

Wayne
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